ginger948cc Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I've now lost 3 in 12months! I try to tighten them,but when the fan starts to turn how can I tighten them more.It was suggested to me that I should use some sort of adhesive (lock-tight or something) .There must be a simple answer.Triumph ,surely ,wouldn't have designed things which fall off would they?????Many thanks for your responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Put the car in gear when tightening the nut up. Can someone advise Dave about the torque setting for this nut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Which pulley nut is it? Crankshaft, water pump, dynamo or A. N. Other nut?Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY J Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 How can you of loss 3 we are only given 2 :o :o :o :o :o RAY J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Dave means the crankshaft pulley nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well done Tim, that's the one. That solution sounds fine;- why didn't I think of that. (NO smart Alec answers thankyou!) I'll order another and find out the torque setting in the mean time. Thanks all, for your responses. There can't possibly be a better club than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Dave, save some money and get one from Wins and Co. at Lingfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 OH nice one Ray! Sorry,--The penny has only just dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 Thanks Tim, I sourced a previous one from Geoff. If it's sunny tomorrow I'll take Consuela down the A 22 for a spin.She had a new year wash and polish today and wants to show off .(The lack of a crank nut shouldn't make any difference -I've driven miles like that before . "I think the tension of the fan belt keeps things in place", ........ he said optimistically)P.s. The headlights decided to work today.It must be a loose connection. The halogen replacements make a real difference ;- mind you I've only tried them in the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Still reckon it would be a good idea to wire relays into the headlamp circuit to protect the old wiring on your Herald, especially as the Herald does not feature fuses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 Thanks Tim,I'm going to get Clint to put in relays and fuses before I use the lights. I can contact him now I have received my radio,which I will ask him to fit..(along with a list of electically related jobs).I've ordered the crankshaft pulley nut from Canley...£8.00 inc VAT. ,postage minimal, it will be here tomorrow,and it's new. Wins was £7.50 +VAT ,cost of picking it up, and it's pre-used.I've searched the workshop manuals for the torque setting,but it's not mentioned. If I just do it up nice and tight, is there a possibility of over-doing it ,so as to restrict the pulley?What's good about Club Triumph?................... Us novices are never made to feel out of place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldhabitat Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I had a similar problem with my old 13/60 estate with 1500 Spit engine. The nut came off when I was just touching 90 (non overdrive) the thing clattered around the bonnet came out from underneath spinning up in front of the car bouncing at the same time. It eventually shot off to the other side of the motorway, I always wonder if someone ended up with it on there lap :oTalk about needing a change of underwear! Anyway the new nut was tightened up with Lock tight, I can't remeber the torque but I didn't mess, it didn't come off again.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Dave,Reckon Chris is right in recommending the use of Loctite.I remember when I changed a timing chain on a Spitty some time ago (Blimey thinking back it must have been 1988!!!), i was shocked at the torque setting -I think it was over 100lb/ft- had trouble geting it tight as my torque wrench could not get it up to the setting- used a pice of mild steel tubing over a breaker bar. I have lost my Spitfire manual so cannot recall the correct setting.Think James C will prob have the figure available.GT6 figure is 90 - 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Off the top of my head too... 150lbft....Looking that up to check - the only figure I can find is 150 for the 1500 engine... can't find any 1300 figures...The nut itself is a 1 13/16" - I have one to borrow btw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Crikey 150lb/ft!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hell of a lot... wonder why it's so much!I should correct that - I have a 1 13/16" socket available to borrow... spent half an hour looking through a huge box at last years Ally Pally for it... bargain for £4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 Thanks all for the information. I remember one of them coming off on the way down the A 23 to a Gatwick area group meeting .I didn't know what it was at the time,but there was an almighty metallic ,gun-shot resembling bang under the car;and my passenger,Les Smith,"hit the floor". I was terrified at the time. But Les emerged with a quote which will be recognised by all who visit these forums;- I shouldn't worry Dave, you have to expect strange noises,--it is aTriumph after all! . Thanks Les ,great advise from a former engineer at the Triumph factory in the 60s.This next one is staying put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 Thanks James .If I can't lay my hands on one , I may ask if I could borrow it at Stoneleigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Oh - hang on - I've just realised... the 1 13/16" is only for the 1500 - the 1300's pulley nut is smaller (small crank)Sorry about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 No probs! I'm heading in the right direction now. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 Just checked the Canley website, and the nut is the same for the Spit 1500 (engine prefix FM) as for the Spit Mark IV (engine prefix FH). The one I regularly get is a big hefty object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Is the woodruff key in good condition? While I have on occasion lost pulley nuts in the past, I've never lost 2 off the same car - once it's back on, it should be there for good. I can't find a specific torque setting in the manuals, but just stick the car in gear and keep tightening as the car starts to move against it's handbrake!Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Ahhh right - thought yours was an early 1300... so yes... it will be a 1.13/16" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Dave,Does'nt you car have a Mk3 Spit engine in it.Thinking back to when I tightened up the nut on the Spit. I metioned early in this thread- I seem to remember thinking I was going to turn the car over- Be careful that the socket does not slip when tightening Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginger948cc Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 Tim ,my engine no. is FH32658HE which I seem to recall makes it a IV.Woodruff key,Bill,? now that's something new for me to investigate tomorrow. Cheers everyone for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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