Spitfire2500 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Fourth gear, and only fourth gear, has now got a bit noisy. It's worst when it's cold, and is not so noisy when the g/b is warm.It seems to have stabilised and hasn't got any worse in last couple of months so I suspect it'll probably go on for ages yet -- ideally I would like it to last until I get the Saloon jacked up in the in-laws garage to attend to the bodywork :DAny ideas what it's likely to be?Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sorbington Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Stuff like this normally goes on forever as long as you keep the oil topped up.No doubt someone here will be able to explain what's actually wrong...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanChatterton Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 4th gear is worn! Duh!Not to worry, keep an eye on the oil level and don't worry about it. All saloon gearboxes are noisy, especially when cold.It'll be good for another 100k yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire2500 Posted February 22, 2008 Author Share Posted February 22, 2008 AlanChatterton wrote:4th gear is worn! Duh!Ah -- so it's the gear itself rather than a pesky bearing? There definitely plenty oil in there -- and the differential which, also, now has an exceptionally clean breather :D I wasn't idle while it was up on the axle stands waiting for me to sort out the wheels and tyres ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanChatterton Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Cool bananas............yep, its the gear itself not the bearing me thinks.To be honest, unless you're after spending loads of dosh, reconning these boxes just isn't worth it...........not when a good used one only costs about £75 second hand.!I bit the bullet last year and bought a brand new unsed Stanpart Police Spec saloon box, Canley classics stripped and cleaned it, replaced a couple of seals and put one of their "special" J type overdrives on it. The result is wonderful, never had a quiet, slick gearbox before!!! Not so sure it was worth the £800 it cost me in the end...........but even so........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 AlanChatterton wrote:Cool bananas............yep, its the gear itself not the bearing me thinks.To be honest, unless you're after spending loads of dosh, reconning these boxes just isn't worth it...........not when a good used one only costs about £75 second hand.!I bit the bullet last year and bought a brand new unsed Stanpart Police Spec saloon box, Canley classics stripped and cleaned it, replaced a couple of seals and put one of their "special" J type overdrives on it. The result is wonderful, never had a quiet, slick gearbox before!!! Not so sure it was worth the £800 it cost me in the end...........but even so...........My "best" box is in the one in the Taxi which is ex police -what were the main differences? stag internals ? i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 AlanChatterton wrote:Cool bananas............yep, its the gear itself not the bearing me thinks.To be honest, unless you're after spending loads of dosh, reconning these boxes just isn't worth it...........not when a good used one only costs about £75 second hand.!I bit the bullet last year and bought a brand new unsed Stanpart Police Spec saloon box, Canley classics stripped and cleaned it, replaced a couple of seals and put one of their "special" J type overdrives on it. The result is wonderful, never had a quiet, slick gearbox before!!! Not so sure it was worth the £800 it cost me in the end...........but even so...........My "best" box is in the one in the Taxi which is ex police -what were the main differences? stag internals ? i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy thompson Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yep, police box is basically Stag with a saloon type input shaft... all internals are Stag spec including the higher 1st gear. Nice if you can find one.... probably easier nowadays to find a Stag box and rebuild a saloon input shaft into it..... plenty of old Stag tat on Fleabay :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sorbington Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 AlanChatterton wrote: Not so sure it was worth the £800 it cost me in the end...........but even so...........Blimey! How much of that £800 was spent on having it polished? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanChatterton Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 You think you're joking................I did have the gearbox casing bead blasted before re-assembly.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 T'was full of spiders that box of yours Alan :-) I saw it when Dave was checking it over, looked nice in there apart form the ultra dirty tail end bearing (that got replaced). Always amaxing what NOS stuff still turns up :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 those little italian sports cars get in everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkuser Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 As the cluster gear is not loaded when in top"gear" (direct drive) it could be chattering around a bit due to wear on countershaft, it's bushes, or end play.Side load on the mainshaft bearings is little in top so movement here could be the cause. Gearbox needs stripping and full check over but catastrophy is not imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanChatterton Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Jason wrote:T'was full of spiders that box of yours Alan :-) I saw it when Dave was checking it over, looked nice in there apart form the ultra dirty tail end bearing (that got replaced). Always amaxing what NOS stuff still turns up :-)Yeah, I heard. It was well worth while having DP check it over! I knew it needed doing as although it was new old stock, it had been stood on its end, with no rear cover on so I knew at least the rear bearing needed looking at. It has got to go back though, its leaking oil from the box/overdrive joint.......... ho hum. Dave knows its coming back so we'll see what happens when he gets it open!(probably a spiders leg caught in the seal!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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