Steven Lowe Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Hi every one, i have just removed the sump from my 13/60 and didn`t notice that there were three different lengths of bolts! can anyone tell me if this is normal and if so what position do they go back in? also were can i get a o/s door cam lock mechanism as rimmers don`t have any in stock, many thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve AKA vitessesteve Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 There are several traders who sell Herald parts online. I would try Canley Classics or James Paddock for lock mechanism part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 If I remember there are two different length bolts. but can't remember where they go. I would measure the depth of the holes with a slim screwdriver or something similar and make a note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Oh 3 sizes. counting the oil seal at the front me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPearce Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 I think the longer ones go into the aluminium bits at front and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 many thanks for all your input, sorted with the bolts but sadly no luck with the door mechanism! tried canley classics but not available ,but love there web site going to be very useful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6s Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Indeed there are three lengths. Middle length up the sides. Short to the front. Long to the rear where the holes in the sump are braced. Laurence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 Hi every one , Me and my bolts!! when removing the timing cover on my herald 13/60 coolant came gushing out of a bolt hole at the top of the engine! should this happen or am i in trouble. thanks for the good news your going to give me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidb5964 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Not too sure what the cam mech is . I have many door lock parts so I may have one. PS i'm in Warwickshire Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Thanks for that Dave, was going to send a picture of it but i can`t figure out how!! i have just had a spring delivered to replace the broken one but i think it`s well knackered if it doesn`t work i`ll let you know. steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktheherald Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 photos can only be posted by members.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Hi, can any one tell me how to get the tensioner onto the chain when refitting the timing cover on my herald 13/60 please? Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 on a 6 which Im sure is very similar I use a piece of coathanger wire bent 90º to pull the tensioner strip back a bit while fitting the cover then once its located on the chain, remove the wire and push the cover fully home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve AKA vitessesteve Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Quoted from marktheherald- photos can only be posted by members.... Not true. Only club members can upload photos to the forum. Any registered forum can post images that are hosted elsewhere. For example here is photo from my blog: 2 ways to insert images: by clicking on the "insert/edit image" icon and then putting the web address of the image you want to use. Or click on the word "Insert" select "Image" then fill in the "Source" field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 thanks for the coat hanger trick ,sorted now onto the next calamity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonnick Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 you can also download Pictures to your own Gallery and copy the URL from there to post into the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 hello again, can any one tell me what size helicoil i need to redo the thread on the 13/60 timing cover bolt hole it`s one of the bottom one`s just above the crank . many thanks Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPearce Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 How stripped-down is your engine? Apart from the two outliers near the dynamo, all the timing cover bolts go through the front plate into the block (or the aluminium filler piece). You will need to remove the front plate to helicoil them. Also beware of swarf! The thread is 5/16" UNF on all those bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Sounds like Steven has a problem with the thread in the ally bridge piece as is almost always the case. I had the same on my 6 but with the sump bolts that go into the same item from underneath so I just ran an M10 tap through which luckily just fit through the sump pan holes and then used short M10 allen head bolts to achieve a the correct tightening. Dont if it would be possible to do the same with the front timing cover hole..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Thanks for that i did try tapping with a m8 tap but still no good! i`ll see if it will take a m10 tap, failing that it`s the helicoil route. thanks for your tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Fraid its got to be bigger as a stripped 5/16 hole is just about 8mm (clearance hole for M8) which could work for M9 if you could find one or better M10 if theres enough space. Then youll definitely need a allen head bolt (maybe even ground down a little) as a hex head will be too big. I think its worth trying this as to helicoil will probably means taking off both timing cover and backplate which requires timing gear removal and exposes the engine internals to swarf ingress. If you do go that far you could consider replacing the bridge block with a new item (~20pounds) or even a steel one (~40pounds)....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 I did manage to get a 10mm tap into it and a ground down bolt and it seems to have tightened reasonably tightly but lets see! only had the car a couple of weeks and was hoping to do these jobs over winter but the leaks were so bad nobody wanted me on there drive!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Good news as Ive got to do the same job on my Vitesse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Lowe Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 Hi, just found a crack in the inlet manifold on the 13/60 , will it effect the running much? and if i need one where can i get one if i can`t fix it, Rimmers and Canley classics don`t stock it anymore! Cheers Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Unusual but I cant believe its going to have much of an effect. Perhaps you could put some liquid on it while its running to see if air is being drawn in and then fill the crack with some epoxy metal to get rid of any doubt...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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