Doug Thompson Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 On a late 1500 spit , I have lost all lights , side lights/ main beam, flasher still works as do all the other electrics, haynes manual gone awol , any ideas :) cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 First thought, it sounds like time for a new headlamp switch. Please refine your punctuation Doug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I thought yours was an early one??Anyway, got to be either headlight switch or one of teh fuses.Top one springs to mind.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Top fuse would mean instruments (water/gas) off too nuh? I'm still voting for the switch.You and I have our originals stockpiled though eh Colin, ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Paterson Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 smithy wrote:Top fuse would mean instruments (water/gas) off too nuh? I'm still voting for the switch.You and I have our originals stockpiled though eh Colin, ;)Top fuse being out means, among other things - no brake lights- no indicators- no rev counterbut the headlights will still work IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 All other lights are on another fuse, not the same one as controls brake lights, indicators, etc. And it's very common to have the fuse and/or fuse box contacts just build up a bit of oxidation, while just moving the fuse around usually will restore function! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Thompson Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 forgot to mention don't appear to have any power to switch :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritsnSpits Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 When your Heinous manual goes missing, try using these diagrams: http://www.triumphspitfire.com/wiring.htmlThey should be close enough. If you have right-hand drive, try printing the diagram flipped 180 degrees. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Doug_P wrote:Top fuse being out means, among other things - no brake lights- no indicators- no rev counterbut the headlights will still work IIRC.Uh yes Doug dead right, and also immediately recognisably, water and fuel gauges - which is why I'm still voting for the switch.Or was!"forgot to mention don't appear to have any power to switch" may have me change my opinion......!Checked the fuses yet then, DougT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Thompson Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 will do cheers :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Are you running Halogen headlamps??? If so then its the switch, and you will need another as the contacts burn out except the flash option. Chic doig has them in stock, second hand for £15. Check if its two position or three. Also once you have replaced the switch then you need to fit a relay kit. Here is the one my wife bought me.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250904682958#ht_2496wt_1206 Just speak/message the guy and ask for the Triumph spitfire version.Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aar0sc Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 just after it's (passed ;D ) MoT; my Spit's horn and headlamp flasher stopped working. It was just a fuse :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodders1 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 2402 wrote:Are you running Halogen headlamps??? If so then its the switch, and you will need another as the contacts burn out except the flash option. Chic doig has them in stock, second hand for £15. Check if its two position or three. Also once you have replaced the switch then you need to fit a relay kit. Why? A 60W quartz-qalogen bulb will draw the same current as a 60W tungsten bulb.Now if he was using UPRATED bulbs (of either filament type) then there will be a higher current through the switch, and adding relays would be a sensible precaution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedmonkey Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 bodders1 wrote:Why? A 60W quartz-qalogen bulb will draw the same current as a 60W tungsten bulb.Now if he was using UPRATED bulbs (of either filament type) then there will be a higher current through the switch, and adding relays would be a sensible precaution.Yes but a thirty year old dodgy lucas prince of darkness switch was shite when it was new and even shiter now, throw in some dust, cack, corrosion etc on the contacts - hot spots will appear on the contact plating eventually vaporizing the conductive bits of the switch -and if you are Ellis running 5,0000w searchlights the cables will melt as well! old cars need new relays to protect old switches ...simples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piman Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Hello AJP,"Yes but a thirty year old dodgy lucas prince of darkness switch was shite"No I don't think they were, despite them being built to a price the car manufacturer was willing to pay. Lucas could and would build to any specification asked for. The blame for marginal equipment was the car manufacturer, also they were never built to last for thirty or more years without replacement, but many have survived that period.Alec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 My switch blew at the end of my drive when on route to see the edinburgh airport section of the RBRR2010. I moved from 55/60 sealed beams to 55/60 halogens. Just standard bulbs nothing special but it still melted the wire and fried the switch. Relays all the way.Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 2402 wrote:Are you running Halogen headlamps??? If so then its the switch, and you will need another as the contacts burn out except the flash option. Chic doig has them in stock, second hand for �15. Check if its two position or three. Also once you have replaced the switch then you need to fit a relay kit. Here is the one my wife bought me. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250904682958#ht_2496wt_1206 Just speak/message the guy and ask for the Triumph spitfire version.Chris. bodders1 wrote:Why? A 60W quartz-qalogen bulb will draw the same current as a 60W tungsten bulb.Now if he was using UPRATED bulbs (of either filament type) then there will be a higher current through the switch, and adding relays would be a sensible precaution.Indeedy.Anyhoo, I've got supper dooper halogens in the Herald, but standard rating. The flasher wire comes un-soldered now and then but everything else has worked without issue and in all weather for five years.Any issues are simply coincidence or the result of 40+ years of use. And that's the only reason I'm fitting relays (eventually). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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