JimEB Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Hi all :)I've got the chance to save a rare MkII PI estate, but it needs all arches doing, plus at least one full sill. The car is too good to break, but it'd be folly to patch repair it to scrape through the MoT.Of course I'm aware that panels aren't avaiable from the usual suspects, hence my appeal to you. Are you hiding panels away for a rainy day? Do you really think you're going to use them? If not, then I'd love to buy them off you to save this estate, so please don't hesitate and get in touch!Any help appreciated, thank you :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Good Luck,, how about lloyd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Front Wings are MkII Saloon,Rear wings match the profile of the MkI Saloon (just that the fuel tank filler is moved from N/S to O/S on the estate)Sills are MkI Saloon profile, although the only difference to a MkII sill is the rear edge for the arch. A bit of work with a dolly and you can turn one into the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Jim,I have 2 salvaged MK2 front wings with reasonable arches. I also have a new N/S estate rear wing (correct estate with no petrol filler)Probably better to see them used than sit in my garage forever. Are you still interested in my 2.5 engines?Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Russell PM sent ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedTaylor Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Have you checked the rear hatch area of the estate for corrosion? This can be a serious problem for estates as Mike W found, as I am finding with Woodie (Mk2 estate for those not in the know) which was bodged unmercifully in these areas before being painted over, and I found with the Rusty Reck though much of that had also rusted and literally fell apart!The key areas are rear edge of the roof at the top of the hatch opening, the bottom of each side support on the outside where it meets the wing, and also the inside of each side support. These are repairable areas, I have no problems with repairing them myself having done much worse on Range Rovers, but it is not easy and needs a bit of experience on this sort of work and if done professionally would be expensive. Repair sections don't exist and you either have to cut up another estate ??) or do some careful metal forming to produce them.Wheel arches and other wing issues, and sills, will be straight forward compared to this hatch problem. It is in part caused by the constructional methods and design used in converting a saloon to an estate.With luck these will be OK (many estates are) but do check it very carefully because it is a known problem spot.MUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimEB Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 RussellBanyard wrote:Jim,I have 2 salvaged MK2 front wings with reasonable arches. I also have a new N/S estate rear wing (correct estate with no petrol filler)Probably better to see them used than sit in my garage forever. Are you still interested in my 2.5 engines?Russell.Hi Russell,I've just emailed you ;)Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimEB Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Thank you all for your input thus far :)I was already aware of the MkI/MkII panel sharing on estates, but didn't know about the rear end rot trap around the tailgate ??)Hopefully I can get this car rescued and stored somewhere (anywhere!!!) so that I can restore it when I've gathered all the panels ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 RussellBanyard wrote:Probably better to see them used than sit in my garage forever. Are you still interested in my 2.5 engines?Russell.Blimey, now you have let the cat out of the bag, You shouldn't ever mention a spare 2.5 in public, you will have a long queue forming outside the garage.. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 thescrapman wrote:Blimey, now you have let the cat out of the bag, You shouldn't ever mention a spare 2.5 in public, you will have a long queue forming outside the garage.. :-) Yep ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 thescrapman wrote:Blimey, now you have let the cat out of the bag, You shouldn't ever mention a spare 2.5 in public, you will have a long queue forming outside the garage.. :-)Hands off mr ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimEB Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 I've been offered a pair of salvaged front wings and a NOS rear wing, thanks to you Russell ;)Still searching for further panels at real-world prices :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicmk1est Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 there is no such thing as real world prices for big t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedTaylor Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Real world prices relate to availability and demand - panels for our cars are in very short supply, NOS/remanufactured or take offs, but are in demand. Therefore the real world dictates that their value is how badly people want something, and if they really want/need a panel will pay a high price. A fact of life that if you want a panel you pay what is being expected or lose it to someone who will.MUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimEB Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Sadly, I'm well aware of the facts of life Ted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimEB Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 No longer required... :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimEB Posted November 21, 2014 Author Share Posted November 21, 2014 ??)http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C562121# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicmk1est Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 ive just read rob pearce`s blog,,it that the same car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimEB Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 1555 wrote:ive just read rob pearce`s blog,,it that the same car?Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Obviously the customer didn't want it after all.Can't blame him, it is poop brown after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Quote:This now rare example remains in the exact specification in which supplied Well for a '72 car, it looks like the throttle bodies have been changed for the later '74 style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimEB Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 I tried...but now it's gone to auction... I hope someone doesn't buy it and break it ??)http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-25-Pi-MK2-ESTATE-/291312472097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedTaylor Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Yes really don't like the phrase "The car may prove of strong interest as a donor vehicle and in essence,this may be a deciding factor to all serious bidders,particularly as a provider of the higher horsepower engine,all fuel injection parts,overdrive gearbox,rear axle & driveshaft assemblies,plus a host of body & trim parts."I would hope a reputable dealer would not want to encourage this sort of thing.MUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydpiestate Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 couldnt agree more ted.a triumph dealer / stockist should know better, he is hinting the car is fit for nowt else than to be broken for spares.you wanna see my mk1 estate that im restoring, this one looks like a new car compared to mine.each and every car, is worth what it is worth to the person buying it, i personally see nothing on that car, body wise that frightens me, but each to thier own.if the car ends up being broken, the seller will lose a potental customer over the comming years, NOT THE WAY FOR THEM TO ADVERTISE A CAR !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedTaylor Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Thanks Lloyd. And the other way of looking at this phrase is that Manvers are suggesting that the running gear and everything related to a PI be removed and put into a non PI saloon shell. What would be the identity then claimed - estate, 2000/2500, or a log book fiddled PI.People do re-shell cars of special interest to 'save' them which while illegal does have a purpose. To do what is being implied here is blatantly illegal and of no legitimacy so lets hope the car is bought by someone who respects it for what it is.Sorry for the rant.MUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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