thescrapman Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 The previous cheaper source of Vignettes, the mightly Ebay, is not quite so easy this time round. Ebay pull all listings for them within 24 hours usually, however they may be described.Spoilsports!So I tried a different tack, I watched for the listing to appear, then noted the seller and sent them a personal message (don't ask a question, that gets blocked)Has proven fruitful, just over half price.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uksnatcher Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Bobbyspit (rob) has informed me the ebay vignettes that show the serial number on the pic are being logged by the Swiss authorities and are issuing fines of 75 Euro if found using a pass with a logged number.Like this one ( If it stays on ebay that is):http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Swiss-Switzerland-Motorway-Tax-Vignette-2011-/180695811555?pt=UK_Tickets_Travel_Package_Holidays_CV&hash=item2a124f45e3Pays yer money and takes yer chance people :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 uksnatcher wrote:Bobbyspit (rob) has informed me the ebay vignettes that show the serial number on the pic are being logged by the Swiss authorities and are issuing fines of 75 Euro if found using a pass with a logged number.Like this one:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Swiss-Switzerland-Motorway-Tax-Vignette-2011-/180695811555?pt=UK_Tickets_Travel_Package_Holidays_CV&hash=item2a124f45e3Pays yer money and takes yer chance people :-/ Yep, happend to a mate on a bike forum, he bought his friom Ebay and got stopped. Hey presto stated they were not transferable, fined! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uksnatcher Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Have you got yours yet Rob or are you paying full wack en-route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 The question or answer is ,we dont know whether we will need one,do we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Still think they are good value compared French motorway tolls (although the SF is a bit beefy at present). Not worth fooling about really. My Swiss relatives are disgusted that they are not available "short-term" for visitors - apparently the same for the Swiss though - if they buy a car in November, they have to pay for a full year. (Run Jan to Dec regardless)Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 Nice of you to mention it AFTER I purchased a couple... :-/As mine didn't actually sell on Ebay, not sure. There is nothing to say i wasn't the person who purchased it (and didn't sell it) as it is unused.Must assume it was logged I suppose as it did appear on a listing.Does it require you to actually be stopped for them to check it? Or do the cameras read the number then they pull you?We have been told that we are travelling through Switzerland on the motorways during the day.So the assumption is that we do need one.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 Colin,The numbers on the Vignette are small and yes you will have to be stopped to be checked. Last time we drove through the night and had no bother, I will be getting one from somewhere, still looking.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 I was wondering if they were RFID tagsCheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 thescrapman wrote:I was wondering if they were RFID tagsCheersColinNot that hi tec ? Me thinks I will have to look at a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Flexney Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 michael_charlton wrote:The question or answer is ,we dont know whether we will need one,do we ?The suggested route is optional so you could chose one that does not use (Swiss) motorways, if you'll get round in time is a different challenge :)AndyF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Behind the scenes I had been talking to the Swiss Tourism Office within the Embassy about short term use of Swiss highways and the need for vignettes.It was in the hope that my request for a reduced rate would fall on sympathetic ears.This was there response:Dear Mr. Charlton We thank you for your request. To make use of the Swiss Highways you will have to buy a road Vignette. There is no difference between using the highways for an hour of a year, a Vignette is obligatory. For the normal roads no Vignette is needed, so if you don't want to buy one you can decide to use the normal roads, but this will take of course much longer. If we have not met your personal requirements or you require further information, please do not hesitate to contact us on the following free phone number 00800 100 200 30. Best regards Elske Spanjerberg ----------------------------------Switzerland Travel Centre AGBinzstrasse 38CH-8045 ZürichLong live William Tell.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 PS I made no mention of who we are ,where we are going and when.......the answer for the need is in your hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 The Swiss have now been back ,all apologetic, to say their office was only quoting their legislation and have now given me another telephone number to see if there is anything they can do .........Mon to Fri 9 till 5....Worth a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uksnatcher Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 Fingers x'ed Mike, work your magic on em..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 You know Yorkshire pockets.....down to the kneecaps.....even with shorts on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggrr1 Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I've seen those pocketsThey hang below the hemline of the shorts and bang your small change off your ankles ;D ;D ;DGo for it Mike :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Following this with interest and hoping you'll turn up some loophole or special deal. However - my Swiss relatives a quite adamant that there is no get-out on this one for the locals or anyone else.Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 ....how about , charging all Swiss Tourists a fee when they come to see our wonderful scenery..........like I was reading about trying to establish a system of charging foreign truckers ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 OK , so it was worth ringing and asking............even to no availI spoke to the Swiss highways department and asked if there was any possibility of concessions, discounts etc when paying for vignettes.I explained we were a classic car club and would be passing through for only a few hoursI gave no indication as to who we are where we are going why or when, so they do not know who was asking....The answer was "Even after the first one kilometre on a green indicated main highway, you have to pay the full amount"The fee is 40SW FrancsSome may say that it was nt worth asking about it, as everyone has to payHowever had we not asked ,we would not know officially, that the fee had to be paid So there we are members, the official answer pay the fee.....or..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggrr1 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Thanks for trying and for clearing things up Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 When Swiss tourists buy something from us I vote we charge them more and give change in currency that they can't use or exchange anywhere else. Last time I bought the Vignette at the border and was given change is Swiss Franks. Such a small amount that no one will exchange it. Even if I bring it this time I doubt it is enough to buy a pack of gum and I don't chew. I also noted they had plenty of Euro change but would not give me any, yes I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 When they replied "No, " for discounts or concessions.....my flippant response fell on deaf ears....."No wonder the Swiss are rich" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Barton Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I hadn't read through this thread before I recently placed a bid on eBay for a Vignette. Having read through the thread, I was then not too worried when I got out-bid at £19 - and eBay have just written to me to tell me that they have pulled the item listing - exactly as this thread indicated. Having read the dire warnings about fines.....I'm going to just chin up and buy one. Grumble grumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted July 24, 2011 Author Share Posted July 24, 2011 RegYou should have no issues buying one outside of Ebay if the number is obscured in the photo.If it is one that doesn't sell, who is to say you weren't the original owner using it again.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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