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Nice job and great looking car, just wonder how it goes, heavier than a bussa!!

And it's open again. This is pretty late for the Stelvio. Looks like a mild winter for us then. Jim.

mikew wrote:No, gave that up incase I met you in one  :K) :K) I know. It's always awkward when you meet up with someone with whom you've had a serious relationship with. Still miss you Mikey. :'( :'( :'( So volunteer to marshal on the RBRR and meet people with a similar disposition to yourself for fun, new friends and maybe something more exciting. We're very open-minded here at Club Triumph. :) Jim.

Still cruising the gay bars then Mike? :P Jim.

Tim, Put me down for a control. Even John O'Groats, if you have trouble filling it. Someone from further south could head up to Carter Bar if required. Jim.

4526 wrote:Gaz, I've mailed for those led's from ace parts, because on there ebay listing they said they don't ship to Belgium.. So asked about it, and they say that they are not shipping parts outside the UK  :-/ So they don't want do sell .. all fine with me . :-/ I can buy them and send them on if you like Wim?

7270 wrote:I am thinking of fitting cruise control to (Stag) and understand that I will need to fit a trigger to the prop shaft to get road speed feedback. Is there a well trodden path to follow in doing this? I am having enough issues with simple stuff and do not want to overcomplicate it. I don't think you will need a trigger wheel, it may take the reading off the bolts? Some others may correct me?

And it's closed. Jim.

I may give  insurance companies a ring round and check their policy wording. It would be interesting to see who offers recovery and hire car, It would have a impact on who I choose next year. Rob

Glad the car is home Mike, I have  a pic of the altitude that you broke down at! Ill find and post. On the insurance theme, companies have changed things in recent years!! I broke down on the 2009 event, the hire car was included as was the car recovery to the U,K. My friend also using the same insurance company this year broke down in Germany, what a different story! His car was recovered to the UK but he had to pay for the hire car for the remainder of his trip. That changed in 4 years. It would be interesting to ring around the classic insurance companies and check who offers what cover. It may make a difference between getting your car home and not and paying for a hire car which in my friends case added up to $600 . Rob

timbancroft61 wrote:Reckon at this point next year I will be tucking into a JOG brekkie at this point. At this point, I'll be asking if anyone likes Lambrini. :) Jim.

uksnatcher wrote: Really......!!!  Havnt got my glasses on at the mo but ding dong boys.... :P Love it you reprobate ! love your comment not the 12 inch black item!! ;)

mikew wrote:It's not McJim's wife is it ?  ;D Steady!

I think I will be doing my own thing next time! I hope to pick a route and timescale for me to visit areas of interest, this will allow me to time to visit locations and explore the area and staying at hotels every night. It will give me time to stop and explore the villages and towns out of the car. Mileage will be about 2k point but days about 7 nights so longer. I intend to visit more passes like Stelvio and the like. Zero input from MSA or the like mine will not be an organised event and no bloody spares list to organise.  ;) good luck to the 10cr 2015, you have a great team of people who are organising it and it will be fab. Rob

AndyF wrote:if you were to volunteer to organize such a run.  ;) AndyF Seriously? Thought that it had already been allocated. Mmm..... Good post though Andy.  Cleared up a few questions. Jim.

No, he's still there! :) Jim.

timbancroft61 wrote: Gawd, McJim is right (That is something I never thought I would say), two events run concurrently would be ideal. 6. A loose nature! Autoroute is crap, just give out way stations and times to be there-not too many though. 7. Not too much heat, Triumph cars and heat do not mix. I'd go later in the year, first w'end in October so as to alternate with the RBRR. Some have told me that passes like the Stelvio may be closed due to snow then?? Dip in the med-nah, take Bill Goodwin's advice! I feel abit for the organisers of the 10CR, bit of a no win situation, but the 10CR is a much more democratic event so suggestions need to be considered. First, when was I ever right! Second, Autoroute is great!  A great programme for planning event timings and mileages - far better than Google Maps.  Maybe not the best for a roadbook though.  Google Maps has the edge there. First weekend in October is a non starter in the Alps.  Check the Stelvio thread.  I usually post when the Stelvio opens and, more importantly, when the snow closes it.  Last time the 10CR went up the Stelvio in the first week of September, the following weekend it was shut by snow as were most of the high Alpine roads. Agree that 10CR organisers are in a no-win situation. The 10CR doesn't have the history or the tradition of the RBRR. Maybe that's not a bad thing. It means that the basic framework of the event can be more flexible. Raider's plan to have a touring route on the 2007 10CR may have been the way to go but was perhaps too early an option for the smaller number of crews taking part.   Today, we are in a different position. And now we have a healthy discussion on one of the Club's premier events. It shows that we have recognised that some people have a problem with the event and that we are all quite willing to put in our views and opinions to move forward. I, for one, haven't deemed any of the comments here as negative or critical of previous organisers but the honest opinions of Club members, that give us, as a club, the opportunity to offer something that appeals to more people than ever before. A good discussion on here is always the sign of a healthy club with plenty of active members. Other clubs must look at Club Triumph and the prestigious events that it puts on with envy. Jim.

Do the MSA have to be involved if in Europe? I thought they were UK only? Forgive my ignorance

A slight problem is that most folk aren't that into maps and will miss most of the best roads unless they are given instructions directing them. I can just imagine the converstion. "The Stelvio was amazing and so were the Gavia and the Vivone Passes!" "What?  We were near the Stelvio?  And what's this Gavia and Vivone?  I can't find them on my 1 centimetre to 20 kilometre map!" What about passing through Sospel on your way to the Med and missing the Col du Turini because you took the direct signposted route. Some level of instruction will always be required. It may be "Make your way to Jausiers then follow signs for the Cime de la Bonette (M64)".  Most people, I suspect, would struggle with that unless they had spent a good bit of time before the event marking out the route on an atlas or sat nav. It's a difficult balance to produce a roadbook with enough information so that few folk get lost but, at the same time, not providing too much information so that you spend all your time with your head in a book counting junctions looking for your next road change. In the past, I've tried to limit the number of junctions to be negotiated and keep to the same road as long as possible. It's great for covering a long distance with the fewest navigational hassles but not so good when you're missing out on some excellent roads just off route that are complicated to access. There's no easy solution, which is why I advocated a two tier event with an easier route and also a more hard core route for the more experienced. With the hard core route, specific route instructions would still be given but, in addition, significant points along the route would be issued that the organisers wanted you to visit as the roads were worth driving over.   If you wished, you could ignore the specific route instructions and just join the significant points together on a map and plan your own route.  How you got to the significant points would be your choice. Just remember, prior to all 10CR's in the past, club members have recce'd the route to make sure that the route works and also that the roads are worth visiting. No one, so far, seems to have realised the work that goes into providing crews with an enjoyable and memorable experience rather than just make your way from here to here with a dull motorway being the sat nav's choice. A lot of thought goes into the 10CR to try to cater for as many people as possible and no one has any doubts that they're going to please all of the people all of the time. I like to meet the guy who could. Jim.

3020 wrote:wouldn't be a pig to organise two running side by side Personally, I don't think it would either. Jim.

Here's an idea that has been used on Le Jog for many years. Le Jog has a route for the hardened competitor and a easier touring trial using a shorter route. It would be difficult for organisers to arrange two routes that would meet up on an event such as the 10CR or whatever comes after it but not impossible. Two people organising each route, working together so that both groups meet up at hotels at more or less the same time. For example, the hard route from Calais runs through the Massif Central, Nice and up to the hotel at Turin, the easier route leaves Calais, runs through the Vosges, overnight halt near Geneva then back into France, over the Alps and down to the hotel at Turin but arriving several hours ahead of the other group. The next day would have a more direct route to the next overnight stop than the harder route and again arrive some hours earlier. It would be a bit of a pig to organise and, in the end, the easier route may not get enough entries to justify doing it for the next run of the event but it would allow the hard core to get on with what they enjoy while giving those who like to see the Alps, without being half asleep, an alternative. If Le Jog can do it, then why not us. There seems to be a split with those wanting a hard core event and those who want a softer event. This is not an ideal solution but it goes some way to giving everyone what they want. It keeps the event going as a single event and not having people diving off on their own. We all want people to see the point of being part of Club Triumph and we all want to see as many of us as possible enjoying and taking part in the events that folk like Ellis have the thankless task of organising. So, no whining. We need ideas. If you don't like what's been offered, then what have you to offer? Jim.

Doug I know several people using your type of wheel, some on Megajolt and all seem to work fine. If in doubt borrow a solid wheel. I have a spare but its in Manchester and I am 300 miles away and not due to visit for a few months. My wheel was ebay about £15 and was solid water cut from 3mm steel. My sensor was about 1mm away from the wheel and never missed a beat. It would work further away from the wheel also. Good luck and keep us informed of your findings Rob

What about this? An MG replica, yes an MG, but actually a Triumph Gentry. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C410510 How Triumph is this one? Jim.

Doug, my wheel was cut from 3 mm steel and worked fine until my conversion to zetec,  that wheel should be fine what problems are you having?

Found this from The Telegraph dated 14 July 2011 "Last week the UK opted out of the cross border enforcement directive so European traffic police know it’s an on-the-spot fine or nothing when it comes to stopping Britons speeding on their roads.” Only exception would be if you were in a hire car, where the hire company will chase you for the debt they've been saddled with. However, also found a post on Pistonheads about a guy who ignored a speeding fime in Switzerland and went back in the same car a year later and got stung plenty. Jim.