Davemate Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Someone,if not everyone except me What size is the crankshaft nut ,as I am changing the water pump and rad I might as well change the timming chain cover gasket and seal as its leakingAny tips for undoing it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 That Tenner went to your head mate....which car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 It's 1 and 13/16" on the later 1296 and 1493; I don't remember what size the earlier engines had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 its on my 1500 engine in my herald i dont know what year the car it that the engine came from 1 and 13/16 i'll ask the lorry fitters at work if anyone has one. most of the blokes who work there are over 50so one must have one !if not, can a set of large ajustables or a large pair of stillsons( i may have spelt that wrong)do the job or does it have to a damm good fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piman Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Hello Dave, normally very tight so it's unlikely that an adjustable will do the job as the nut is often recessed in the front pulley. As for stillsons, are you in the meat trade?Alec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'll try for a socket !Is it just a case of give it a damm good pull with a long bar whilst having it in gear and the neighbour holding the brakes onMeat trade ? I am looking up ,but thats way too far over my head for me to see Edit It's not a left handed thread is it (the nut that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piman Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Hello Dave, yes that's sounds OK, depending, a length of stout pipe can help. I've heard of people putting the spanner or socket arm against the chassis menber (right hand side looking from the front) and using the starter motor to spin the engine and so free the nut.Sorry if meat trade was too obtuse, alluding to being a butcher. Stillsons are for pipes and cut up quite a bit so wouldn't do your nut a lot of good?Alec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 If I can't get a socket it might have to be stilsons and then replace the nut.It's probably cheaper for me to do that than to buy the socket !My grandad was a butcher he only had 3 fingers on his left hand, I don't think he was a very good one though ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James1500 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 impact guns usually good for this sort of work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 Got a socket from the workshop and a nice "t" bar,I didn't know you could get 3/4" drive socketsI thought 1/2" was the biggest ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Even if you butcher it with the stillsons (in my trade called Nut F....ers ) you will still need a socket to get the new one on. Surely you must be able to borrow one ? as piman said, put a bar on a socket and give the starter a nudge, works for me.Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieB Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 James1500 wrote:impact guns usually good for this sort of work?Yes, always worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 its not moving !!!!!i tried,in gear handbrake on and the neighbour holding the foor brake on ----nothing as above with a long bar extending the "t"bar-----nothing putting the "t" bar on the chasis and turning it on the key ------nothing as abovve but leting it spin about 1/4 turn before it hit the chassis ------nothingso it looks like i will have to put back the new water pump and rad with the timming case still leaking and take the car somewere to have the nut loosend by a gararge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveKent Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 you need a longer bar then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveKent Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 you need a longer bar then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudman Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 CharlieB wrote:Yes, always worked for me.Second that. Three days of struggling with a 6' breaker bar and me standing on the end of it was bettered in 10 seconds by a borrowed impact wrench. I immediately went out and bought my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Impact wrench is really the way to go :)Very useful for all sorts of thingsGetting things done is all about the right tools and attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 just been looking at impact wrenches240 power ----£65cordless -----£100air ------£30------compersser ----£80 for a cheapie but will do the job46 mm impact socket �20 (the one i borrowed is not an impact one)looks like christmas might just come a bit early, only thing is i told the wife it had already been last weekendif i use the compresser on this i might just get away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Go for either the compressor or the battery one.http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/products/245185/impact_wrenches_we_test_eight.htmlCompressor is a good option because then you can get lots of other useful tools too — probably the most powerful of the lot too.I have a compressor I'm looking to get rid of — it's a high quality V-twin one that has hardly been used — might be a bit expensive if you're going for cheap though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Impact wrenches an not infalable. On my 1500 I needed to do the seal. My "normal" 1/2 impact wrench, no go. Borrowed a friends CP megabucks one. No joy. 4" bar, clutch slipped.In the end it was a 3/4" set, used a long extension resting at the far end on an axle stand. Then several good belts with a LARGE club hammer eventually got it moving. Never come across anything that required that amount of force before.And before any comments about the "kit" the chappie who lent the tools (and later a hand) works on big stuff day in day out, whence the 3/4" socket set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 james i think the compresser might be the way to go, as you say i will be able to use other air tools with it but i cant justify spending loads on something i will only use to get this nut off and pump my tyres up now and thenlooks like a trip to the local machine mart clive, this is my problem i dont want to waste my cash if it does not work i have borrowed a 3/4 drive socket and given it loads but it an't moving ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 DaveYou will use a compressor for a lot more than you think, it just takes a couple of years to build up the air tool collection... :-)Machine Mart have a VAT free night tomorrow night in Colchester, invite only but if you are going to get one, let me know and I can help you out.Bigger is better in this case.But first find out how much James wants for his. You might be surprised (or shocked!)CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 If you are going to change the nut then get a hammer and cold chisel Thats how I got mine off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Give the end of the bar a sharp hit with a FBH, the shock should loosen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis1360Barry Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 thescrapman wrote:DaveYou will use a compressor for a lot more than you think, it just takes a couple of years to build up the air tool collection... :-)Machine Mart have a VAT free night tomorrow night in Colchester, invite only but if you are going to get one, let me know and I can help you out.Bigger is better in this case.But first find out how much James wants for his. You might be surprised (or shocked!)CheersColini think its vat free in all machine marts (invite only) as my local one in portsmouth is doing it aswell on thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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