Raider Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Ladies and gentlemen - you may be aware that the engine of BRP 285S is defunct (pressurising and blowing oil out the dipstick).This means that with 3 weeks to go to the RBRR it is unlikely the car will make it :'(I do have a spare £75 e-bay Sprint engine and have taken a look at the bottom end this afternoon.I have never heard the engine run but it does turn freely.Anyway, any thoughts on the attached picture - the bearing looks OK to me but I am a novice so any thoughts?In addition, a crazy idea has come to me (Mrs Raider's idea actually).Would anyone fancy joining me for an engine swap over on BRP next weekend ??) We would be happy to offer barbeques, beer and space to pitch tents in our garden. Could be a laugh or then it could be the worst idea ever ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 One of the other shells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRoger Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Never ever offer free beer and BBQ to CT members. It might get busy over the weekend ;DNot an expert, but is it a straight forward swap? (i'm thinking exhaust, gearbox/clutch and stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Clutch is no problem - the engine is the same block.Exhaust? I have a Sprint tubular manifold and the exhaust after that is the same as the TR7 sports exhaust I have fitted.Carbs are a bit of an issue - they are the same but the inlet manifold is different (set further apart). Again I have one complete with carbs and linkage plus the reconditioned carbs I already have on the TR7 now so that should be fixable too.No difference with regards to radiator etc tho may well need some hoses etc.The thing is, if it's on then I'll have to hire an engine crane and get whatever other spares S&S advise this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Martin, I'd go for it! Only other thing to remember is swap the engine back plate if your sprint lump is from a dolly not a '7, otherwise the clutch slave cylinder won't fit... And the water transfer housing on the back of the head will need changing (if it's not already been in a '7), combined with the pump cover outlet and inlet manifold water connection (all 1/2") ....Could be worth pulling the water pump too as the seals are likely to be weepy if it's sat for a while...You'll need different carb needles if using the 7 carbs (prob easiest, as you know they work), S&S will be able to advise a start point..Hoping my Sprint lump works-just about to set off the Bullnose Rally in a sec...Really hoping it stays cool-seems a bit marginal at the moment...Good luck sorting it Martin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itiejim Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Sump needs changing too - though you've obviously already got the sprint one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Thanks guys - I have an offer of a loan car too so I may well take a twin track approach by swapping the Sprint engine into BRP and then if it doesn't work driving the loan car :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Good news Raider - it would be good to have a go at the Spring conversion especially as you have the back-up loaner waiting - nothing to lose I'd say :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 I was over at SnS today and very sorry to hear about BRP. I wish I could join you next weekend to help as I've now done 4 engine swaps and could have helped out. Not going to happen though :(If anyone is going up from the Midlands they could bring my hoist with them though - just a thought if you are short of one....Good luck anyway!Malcolm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 if you weren't so bloody far away i'd pop round tomorow[after finishing putting the gearbox back in the gt6]Ther's got to be some guys oop north that will lend a hand If you do get spare car from Andy would happily get on train weekend before and bring it home and then deliver to start for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpith Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 What was the verdict on the gearbox, Doug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Shagged ,he said it showed signs of being driven by a northern monkey.no ,but seriously,has been rebuilt ,picked it up this morning ...350mile round trip to get it .bolted it back in this afternoon..just got to fill up with oil refit prop and bits and pieces and she's agood un....hopefully will have both cars back on the road tomorow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 Martin - have a read of my website page on the Sprint conversion, it'll remind you of the things you'll need to change etc. ;)http://www.triumphtr7.co.uk/sprint_conv.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Gents, thanks for all your advice and offers of help.Andy has offered me the use of the Cairo Taxi Doug and I'll bear in mind your offer to get it to the start if I need it.Malcolm, thanks for the offer of an engine crane - I'll see if I can get one a bit more local, if not I'll get back to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Quoted from Raider Andy has offered me the use of the Cairo Taxi You're set for a fun time... I've driven that car ;D ;D ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Quoted from Raider ...Would anyone fancy joining me for an engine swap over on BRP next weekend ??) We would be happy to offer barbeques, beer and space to pitch tents in our garden. Could be a laugh or then it could be the worst idea ever ;DDoes the offer include a return plane ticket to the NL ??) ;DBearing looks OK , I'd go for it, follow Ellis' and Paul's advice*edit* If you have any questions or need advise just ask them here or p.m. me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpith Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I've secured the free loan of an engine hoist. Just need to pop over to Accrington with the trailer later in the week to pick it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted September 12, 2006 Author Share Posted September 12, 2006 I would just like to register my thanks to all who have offered to help.I have had lots of advice on the forum and in e-mails, I have had the offer of 4 engine cranes, 3 cars if it doesn't all work out and I have at least one person to help me Friday, Saturday and Sunday :)My helpers and I will be swapping the engines this weekend - all will be documented on my blog if I can remember so tune in for updates ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Well I can only wish you good luck then ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Good luck doing the swap Martin, hope it all goes smoothly! If I was closer (and didn't have so much to do to my own car! ::) ) I'd pop over to help, if only to open the beers ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Man Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Martin, as we've discussed I'll be lending a hand so I reckon that once you've got the gen and any parts you may need it should be a straightforward swap.We shall see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Quoted from Toledo_Man ... it should be a straightforward swap. We shall see...Famous last words ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Good luck mate, you will make it :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 MartinSeriously, any problems you hit over the weekend, give me a quick call, because we probably hit the same thing !!!Another thing worth checking before you install the engine... the water pump... just below the water pump housing cover (on the block) there is a little slot. Check to see if there is any evidence of water leaks (rusty water stains - you know the type of thing) - it's a sign the seals have gone. If there are any signs, change it... Good luck mate - hope we do see BRP on the Round Britain after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Good luck Martin,good advice from Ellis on the water pump seals dont cost much,is it a 16 vane one? its a while since I had a sprint 10 years in fact! did the 96 RBR in it- guess what I put a second hand engine in it for that but about two months before the start not two weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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