Raider Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I know there is a thread elsewhere but for the sake of those looking at prep for 2014 I'll put the stats I am getting on success rates here.For the RBRRs I have stats from - at the moment 2006.2008,2010 here's what it looks like. (2012's will go in this when I can)318 cars started - 290 finished - a success rate of 91.2%2000/2500 89 entered 86 finished 96.6% successTR2-6 27 entered 26 finished 96.3%Stag 21 entered 20 finished 95.2% successDolomite/Toledo 33 entered 31 finished 93.9% successHerald/Vitesse 42 entered 38 finished 90.5% successGT6 26 entered 22 finished 84.6% successSpitfire 42 entered 35 finished 83.3% successTR7-TR7V8 21 entered 16 finished 76.2% success :oThere's a big difference here with the 10CR results - the saloons don't do as well as the big engined (2 litre+) sportsc cars on the 10CR but on the RBRR it's the other way round in the main. Less arduous climbs, running in a cooler climate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Would be interested in seeing the failure reasons for the Spitfires - since that's what we intend on using in 2014! Interesting stats though - Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 6797 wrote:Would be interested in seeing the failure reasons for the Spitfires - since that's what we intend on using in 2014! Interesting stats though - Thanks!I'll get to that next then.The info comes from a slightly different database - same data just set up differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve P Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Seems to be a high rate of driveshaft failure on the Earlier Heralds and Vitesses,mine and two others on the 2012 RBRR.(3 out of 8 cars)?.i`m CV`ing mine now.Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJP Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 6797 wrote:Would be interested in seeing the failure reasons for the Spitfires - since that's what we intend on using in 2014! Interesting stats though - Thanks!Just to put in context with the talk of all these driveshaft failures on the 2012 event - I successfully completed the 2010 RBRR in my Spitfire 1500, the driveshaft failed on the 2007 10CR and was replaced with one of Mr Pearsons replacements which went on to do over 10k miles without fault before I sold the car earlier this year. It was the alternator that gave up the ghost in 2010 which was an easy swap (but wet!) in Gordano Services on the way into Cornwall.I would say just check and replace any suspect bearings/uj's with known quality items and take a spare alternator! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 One thing to note. I know of one Dolomite (hit sheep,10) and one Spitfire (rollover) fail due to accident. One Spitfire out due to windscreen loss (06). Hard to blame the cars for these. I think the other Dolomite also was out due to accident at the same spot as the Spitfire rollover but not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Sharp Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Almost impossible to quantify these results into anything meaningful although I did notice quite a few shiny car failures in 2010. I had given up most of my spares by Blyth! Basically I think the best preparation is to use your Triumph regularly and this will give you the chance to spot any potential problems that could blight your run. I crashed in 2004 due to a mechanical failure that I could not have avoided (Spit 1500). Limped round in 2006 with a failed head gasket (Dolly 1500HL Auto) . Had an effortless run in 2008 despite filling up with Diesel (Dolly 1500HL Man O/D) Broke down 6 times but got round late everywhere in 2010 ( Jonathans Mk 4 Spitfire) and even this year (Mk 2 2500 TC) the only suspect part of the car, the Autobox, lost reverse but got us home in good time. In 2014 the 2500 will be back sporting Man O/D .I have felt most confident in the cars that I use as dailies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'm kinda thinking that using the Spitfire as a daily car for 6 months before the RBRR might be a good plan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAJ Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I would agree that a daily use car CAN be an advantage when doing the RBRR, but I wouldn't agree that the stats (especially once Martin has put together the failure reasons) will be meaningless. In 2010 we had a loss of o/d which we jury rigged and increasing noise from the fr wheel bearings.2012 was an increasing stiffness to the throttle, caused by heat from the 6-3-1 'drying' the throttle cable out.The estate does circa 7.5k miles a year, including long and short journeys, none of the problems listed above had occured before hand even when doing 1000 miles in a handful of days, so the unexpected can always happen. But none of the above problems were that serious really, daily use is certainly a good idea for a trustworthy car for long haul and continental trips IMHO.Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Indeed. When I did the RBRR and 10CR in the Herald I got valve seat recession which I never got during its normal life (10k ish miles a year). Both times on an apparent unleaded head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 This year's event was a weird one, the driveshaft failure that the Herald/Vitesse cars suffered was most odd.I still think it is daft to do the RBRR or 10CR without a spare alternator and a spare fuel pump.Thanks Martin for the stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I wouldnt attempt a drivers meet without a fuel pump either Tim ;DI'm just glad I threw my old one in the boot as I left home that morning :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 OK - at last, with all the 2012 data enteredSo, for 2006/8/10&12410 cars entered, 376 finished = success rate 91.7%Then the car modelsAcclaim - 13 entered 13 finished 100%2000/2500 - 116 entered, 113 finished 97.4%Stag 27 entered, 26 finished 96.3%TR2-6 39 entered, 37 finished 94.9%Dolomite/Toledo 41 entered 38 finished 92.7%Herald/Vitesse 53 entered 47 finished 88.7%GT6 30 entered 26 finished 86.7%Spitfire 50 entered 42 finished 84%TR7-TR7V8 30 entered 25 finished 83.3% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpith Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'd be interested in seeing data by orignal build date, regardless of model... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Are accidents included in the list? Can't blame the car for those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 Goody wrote:Are accidents included in the list? Can't blame the car for those.Going back to this thread I will try and answer some of the questions.Yes, accidents included of which I have 4 recorded so excluding them - now 406 entered, 376 finished = 92.6% success rate.Spitfire data as requested by SamExcluding 2 accidents makes 48 entered, 42 finished = 87.5% success rate.Reasons for DNF - sorry can't help, no data on 4 of them and the other two were wheel bearing failure and "ignition problems" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider Posted December 22, 2013 Author Share Posted December 22, 2013 After more research I can now add to the Spitfire failures one clucth plate that broke up and one gearbox failure (separate incidents) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Thanks Martin! I'll make sure wheel bearings and ignition are well covered by pre-event maintenance and spares/tools for the event! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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