Anthony Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Just collected my 180amp Cebora todayHappy days!:) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I think the 180's are the lowest powered ones of the highend wheeled units. Well worth the money! Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcolumbine Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Excellent! That should serve you well.I've just started teaching myself to MIG weld and I can honestly say that half the battle is using good equipment. With a decent welder, auto-darkening mask, argon and co2 mix gas and good quality wire, I seem to have been able to produce very repeatable and good quality welds almost straight out of the box. Now all I need to do is make them neater! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Richard_B wrote:I think the 180's are the lowest powered ones of the highend wheeled units. Well worth the money! EnjoyYep it's a big 'unReally good quality - even the wheels are ball bearing castorsNow my next question is, should I go for 0.6 or 0.8 wire for body and chassis work?Are the 15kg rolls from Machine Mart any good?The 0.6s are more expensive than the 0.8s but that's because they're the same weight, so the thinner reel will have a longer length to make up the weightBut, would I actually get more use out of the longer 0.6 roll, or would I just be welding slower with the thinner gauge, and therefore still applying the same amount of weld? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 IMHO 0.6 is best for rusty bodywork as it's easier to blow holes with 0.8, however the latter is better for thicker metal such as chassis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 0.6 is £46.790.8 is £31.19Both for 15kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 5kg reels are0.6 = £15.590.8 = £14.39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxbodger Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 If you intend doing a lot of aluminium welding go for 0.8 but if not then 0.6 will be fine for all car needs, chassis included.0.6 tips, wire, liner, etc are all a lot easier to find on a Sunday afternoon when you desperately need them and only Halfords is open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcolumbine Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Yes, use 0.6mm wire on bodywork. According to that MIG welding website, a lot of welding wire is low quality. The guy who does that site swears by Lincoln Electric Ultramag wire, which is what he supplied my welder with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Ok, 0.6 it isRegarding the Halfords comment above - Are tips, liners etc all universal, or are them manufacturer specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcolumbine Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 They are generally machine specific but there does tend to be a lot of crossover due to the fact that a lot of the machines sold under different brand names will be manufactured by the same company.Check out this site for tips and shrouds etc..http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/shop/hobby-torches.htmHalfords only seem to sell stuff for SIP welders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6s Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 1903 wrote:Now my next question is, should I go for 0.6 or 0.8 wire for body and chassis work?Are the 15kg rolls from Machine Mart any good?No point using 15 kilo rolls unless you are welding all day every day, 15 kilos is a lot of wire. Wire goes rusty when not used.0.6 or 0.8 what about 5 kilo rolls of each ? 0.6 will still be suitable for chassis work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 When not used take the wire out of the MIG and store it in the airing cupboard or bas of the oven. Keeps it nice and dry and warm. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Chassis....I've got two outriggers, front crossmember and bonnet boxes to weldBody.....Couple of wheel arches and wings, and then just bits of finishing to doI'll get a 5kg roll of 0.6mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Should I get Argon mix, or CO2 gas?What size bottles should I go for, and whose the best supplier?I'm not going to do enough welding to warrant renting a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcolumbine Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I was advised to use Argon/Co2 mix for the cleanest possible welds and it's working out good so far! I'm renting a bottle of Argoshield Light from BOC. If you're only doing a bit though , you can get Argon CO2 mix in little disposable bottles too - you might need to change your regulator though and they are expensive for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I did some research a while ago.There is a thread about it on teh forum. Renting from BOC is now extortionate. The deposit on the big bottles is the same as a years rental. LIttle bottles run out very quick and cost a fortune. There is a place in St Helens that does a big bottle, filled to 230bar, for £60 + £60 deposit. 5% Argon mix.Or blag a CO2 bottle from a friendly pub (make sure it isn't one of the doctored ones the brewerys sometimes use to prevent this) and a convertor for the LH thread and use that.Argon mix is better.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcolumbine Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Yes, BOC is expensive - but it depends what you compare it to! I'm renting a Y size bottle for about £80 a year with refills costing £40. The same amount of gas in dispoables from Machine Mart would cost £480! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 willcolumbine wrote:Yes, BOC is expensive - but it depends what you compare it to! I'm renting a Y size bottle for about £80 a year with refills costing £40. The same amount of gas in dispoables from Machine Mart would cost £480!My thinking was that the Y-size bottle is £60 deposit from the place in St Helens which is less than 1 year rental. Yes the refill is 50% more, but it takes me 3-4 years to empty a bottle.I used to rent Oxygen and Acetelyne bottles as well from BOC. That was starting to get stupid each year so they went back.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcolumbine Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Yes, rent free bottles are good if you've got somewhere near you that does them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 willcolumbine wrote:Yes, rent free bottles are good if you've got somewhere near you that does them!They can be posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Not full of gas surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Aye. They get delivered by a courier. Not cheap, but still works out less than using BOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willcolumbine Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Only trouble is, you've got to pay to post the empty ones back as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willows40 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 get a bottle from pub etc and then find a friendly fire extinguister company to fill it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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