TimW Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 So as an alternative to the type 9 how easiy is it to fit a TR6 J type/2000/2500 J type gearbox to the GT6 MK3? I do know that some mods will be required but how much? any ideas????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordleonusa Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have a Triumph 2500 gearbox (well the casing anyway), plus J-type O/D fitted to my Vitesse. I had to have a custom shortened gearlever made, (thanks Mike Papworth).Photos can all be found in my Vitesse albums on webshots - about early 1996.search webshots under GUYOT + VITESSEL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordleonusa Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 photo from Jan 1996L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99176 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Before getting my Type 9 I spent some time asking this forum for advice (thanks guys), so I waswell prepared for extending the cover. I have modified it further as it was very close to the handbrake.The box itself changes quite nicely, but 1st is very low even on the Ford CR box. In actual fact this is lessof a burden than I thought it would be. I do have a small, but annoying oil leak from the speedo cableoil seal and despite removing the box and fitting a new one it persists.so I may have casing distortion.Also the gear stick vibrates in fifth, but I have a fix lined up for that.The wife managed to find a Sierra manual in a charity shop, just in case, so everything is set for years oftrouble free changing.5k miles so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don cook1 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Took my Type 9 on the 10 Countries in 2008 and to last year's Classic Le Man, get it in 5th and she damn well lifts her skirts up and flies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I like the idea of using the Big Saloon box, must admit Leon's car is the first small chassised Triumph I have seen with that box fitted that has overdrive-looks a good installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 The 2500 box looks like a nice install but i dont want to have to weld the chasis rails as mine has just come back from a very expensive paint job. I should have test fitted the type 9 before it went to paint but like a fool i fell for the "no you don't need to mod the tunnel" comments that i had been told!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveKent Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 yes well that certain supplier has some good kit, and i can't fault the part i bought from him, but i have to say he was somewhat economical with the truth with me too. nonetheless you'll be pleased with the end result i'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 xyv wrote:yes well that certain supplier has some good kit, and i can't fault the part i bought from him, but i have to say he was somewhat economical with the truth with me too. nonetheless you'll be pleased with the end result i'm sure.I am very happy with the general quality of the kit supplied and also with most other parts that i have purchased from him. I will be using him again i'm sure.. the point of this thread was to make sure that i had done everything as i should have and that i'm not being a complete tit!!! I am a bit disapointed that he was somewhat economical with the truth with me also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreGT6 Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 Yeah the 5 speed changed the car for the better.Will swap the 411 for a 389 this summer.I actualy like the new shifted location. In a far better position.But I now have to edit or make a new tunnel cover. When I bought my newton kit I ordered extra carpet.A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well almost 4 years after fitting the Type 9 it is out of the car again. Following my completion of the RBRR last October the gearbox started to make some funny noises. I sent it to BGH GEARTECH who are ford gearbox specialists. Firstly may I say their service is a little on the slow side due to their workload but what great people to deal with.When i bought my type9 kit it contained a "fully and complete refurbished Type9 gearbox" What a load of bollox!!!!!!Chris at BGH says it's just about the worst gearbox he has seen in the last 15 years! It was very, very dirty inside with all the dogs being completely filled with hard carbon like stuff, the rear needle roller was in several pieces, speedo drive was just floating around the inside of the gearbox, front of the casing that the input shaft main bearing locates was oversize probably due to the main bearing spinning in the casing. Chris also said that it looked like a very high mileage box that had done little motorway use. He also said that this gearbox has definatly never, never been refurbished. It has been apart but never refurbished!Total cost of rebuild as is £515+vatrebuild to heavy duty £685 +vatrebuild to heavy duty with longer first gear £950+vatAluminium casing and lid £365+vatI have asked him to rebuild to heavy duty with the aluminium case (as mine is scrap anyway) I am quite happy with first gear ratio now I have the 3.27 diffI bought this kit so that I could fit and forget. Ripoff traders at it again. I wish i could something about it but the kit is now 5 years old so I don't think I will have any case against the trader involved :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Ask Chris if he's willing to put his opinions in writing as an independent specialist and go from there. Assuming you have the original bill stating it's refurbished. If you haven't then you can't even prove you got it from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Sadly I suspect that is all going to be history and too difficult to challenge. The type 9 conversion seems to be touted as an easy swap, when in fact it is far from it.I have a "long first" t9 in the spitfire chassis. That was stripped and checked over by my good friend who is magic with gears and things. He also shortened the first motion shaft. As to BGH, NEVER heard anything but praise for them. The moral is, if you want a good T9, buy from them....(but to be fair, most seem OK even after all these years) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 ferny wrote:Ask Chris if he's willing to put his opinions in writing as an independent specialist and go from there. Assuming you have the original bill stating it's refurbished. If you haven't then you can't even prove you got it from them. Yes i do have the original bill of sale for the conversion but proving that 5 years use hasn't caused the problems could be difficult and expensive to prove in court. lesson learnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripyt6 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 :( draining - jsut about to have one fitted to mine and had it checked over before fitting, it also had a few bits and bobs that needed some TLC (not bought as part of a kit tho - that's pretty damn shoddy!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 4953 wrote::( draining - jsut about to have one fitted to mine and had it checked over before fitting, it also had a few bits and bobs that needed some TLC (not bought as part of a kit tho - that's pretty damn shoddy!!)Shoddy! understatement of the decade from where i'm sitting 8) Outright theft is more accurate!! You will love the Type 9 it is a nice box to use even in the state that mine was! Can't wait to have the new one in to see what it's like now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don cook1 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Damn...does this mean I'll have to have more fingers crossed now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripyt6 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Looking forward to getting mine back - off to spend Friday with a mechanic friend checking progress on that and various other winter tlc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Is this about the right location? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 5776 wrote:Is this about the right location? Maybe a little too far forward. You can just about read the tape measure in my previous posts. I think about 350mm from front of box to front of gearstick location maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Wants to be about half way between that position and the original position. Never seen one there before - what's that version fitted to? Or is it a special one?CheersNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Nick there is a guy not far from me who does them for Lotus Elan's and has a good rep on the Elan forums, 2k though (whistle)http://www.alanvoigtsgearboxes.co.uk/index.php/products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Reconditioned Gearbox arrived back yesterday complete wiith aluminium casing and lid. This has now been built using heavy duty bearings and a larger needle roller on the front of the layshft. Built to 220BHP and 200ftlbs torque. Hopefully I shouldn't be able to break this one!!I have also managed to locate needle roller bearings for the end of the crank shaft rather than the phosphor bronze spigot bush as supplied in the original conversion kit.Engine and gearbox should be back in tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 339 wrote:Reconditioned Gearbox arrived back yesterday complete wiith aluminium casing and lid. This has now been built using heavy duty bearings and a larger needle roller on the front of the layshft. Built to 220BHP and 200ftlbs torque. Hopefully I shouldn't be able to break this one!!I have also managed to locate needle roller bearings for the end of the crank shaft rather than the phosphor bronze spigot bush as supplied in the original conversion kit.Engine and gearbox should be back in tomorrow.Can a normal one not take that power then? I almost got my hands on a 200bhp motor when I was looking around for a Zetec lump. I worked out the power to weight ratio before considering it. I went a bit moist at the idea. :B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 ferny wrote:Can a normal one not take that power then? I almost got my hands on a 200bhp motor when I was looking around for a Zetec lump. I worked out the power to weight ratio before considering it. I went a bit moist at the idea. :BStandard type 9 will handle 145bhp and 160ftlbs of torque. I already have 150bhp and 160ftlbs of torque so went for the heavy duty build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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