bob dunn Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 thinking of putting a 2l pinto engine in a 75 mkiv spit , has any one tried this or sim. ::) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I may have this totally wrong I'm sure I heard/read that a pinto engine is to tall to fit in a spit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Better to go for a zetec, you can pick them up for the same as a pinto these daysAnd they give good power.(ask Bobbyspit) :)Edit: and it's lighter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Hugh glossip, tssc chap who has gone very quiet since he was involved in a nasty accident a few years ago.Pinto, type 9 gearbox, pair of twinchoke carbs etc. All pretty simple, tricky bit was exhaust from memory.Also been done plenty of times over the years, along with crossflow, plus countless other conversions.However, zetec is the more modern choice, but these are getting harder to find as donor cats are all more than 10 years old. However, 150bhp is easy, same weight as the 4 cylinder triumph. Use bike carbs or aftermarket injection.More modern choice would be curated, but would need special bell housing.Or on here Chris has installed a zetec s, very light and capable engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The pinto is a loathsome, cam-eating, boat-anchor excuse for an engine and best weighed in. (Can you tell I don't like them much :P)Weighs as much as a Triumph 6 without making much power or even a nice noise. As already mentioned, the Zetec is a far superior modern alternative. The Zetec SE is even better (very light weight) though a bit more involved as a special bell housing is needed to fit to the T9. Also don't forget the Mazda MX5, which comes with it's own gearbox.Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob dunn Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 All change, got a good Triumph 2000 engine with and overdrive gear box on it in a car for peanuts . So things I think I need . 1 home made prop shaft 2 gt6 exaust manifold and exaust 3 engine plate to move the starter out of the way 4 engine mounts gt6 or home made . 5 radiator gt6,electric fan. 6 oil cooler . Method: body off , engine and box out , new stuff on , body and gt6 bonnet on , down the pub . jobs a gud un. Q : does the Triumph 2000 gear box fit in the spit chassis . I,m sure there is plenty more to this change all help is welcome . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 It will go in, but needs a dolomite sprint slave cylinder mount and cross shaft (or cut and weld the existing arm on the cross shaft)Otherwise the chassis is rather in the way....I welded a plate between thge chassis rails to bolt the rear mount to.Be aware that first gear is rather low.And you need gt6 front springs, and also brakes.....And gt6/vitesse inlet manifold as it is stepped down to clear the bonnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martins Stag Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I still don't think you can beat s 2.5 straight six. Don't forget it isn't just BHP but Torque too. I took my Delorean owning neigbour out this afternoon in the Spitfire and he now wants one! Not bad a?Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witness Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Apologies for the slight slant on the topic but Rover/MG K4 VVC engine with a PG would be a good a good combo, or a K4 with the R65 metro gearbox and a longer 5th gear. Something I'd love to do one day, does anyone know if its been done before? I know if a few MGBs its been done in so I assume it's not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotoflex Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 It shows how tastes differ!I can appreciate how the additional towque of the 2.5 engine would be attractive, but having grown up in a time & place where V8's were in everything, I was completely seduced by the Triumph 2L inline 6!I remember back in the day of several visits to the British Leyland dealership for repairs at first, then just parts, the salesmen trying to get me in a new car & always being asked if I wanted to test drive a car instead of waiting. I well remember the TR6 and it being a nice car, but still liking the 2L in my GT6 better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob dunn Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 thanks lads , all very good news . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Nick_Jones wrote: As already mentioned, the Zetec is a far superior modern alternative. The Zetec SE is even better (very light weight) though a bit more involved as a special bell housing is needed to fit to the T9. Nickhttp://www.rwdmotorsport.com/These guys do the bell housing for the Zetec SE to type 9. Engine weight 80kg. Standard 100bhp. Throttle bodies 135bhp. N/a max 220bhp. I have made mounts for this engine, everything else for the conversion is off the shelf. PM for details.Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Ok, this isn't based upon any actual experience, yet, but I don't understand why anyone fits the Ford lump now. You've got the faff converting it to rear wheel drive for a start and it's heavy. Apparently some bloke down the pub might have told a mate that the Mazda engine weighs almost half of the Triumph lump. And Mazda invested millions in getting it to work with a gear box. The rear axle is the same ratio as a Herald and even the clutch master cylinder has the same bore.I'd skip Ford and go for something already driving the rear wheels, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phwoar Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 4A-GE with a T50 box. Failing that, what about converting one of the new 3 cyl 1 litre ford engines, not much weight in one of those I'd wager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Triumph 6 pot keeps it in the family... 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 6485 wrote:, what about converting one of the new 3 cyl 1 litre ford engines, not much weight in one of those I'd wager.It's cast iron block/head and exhaust manifold is part of the head. it's also turboed so even though it looks good it causes lots of problems and I don't think it will be cheap.I've seen 97kg as the weight but I don't think this will include the turbo etc.Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 6485 wrote:4A-GE with a T50 box. Failing that, what about converting one of the new 3 cyl 1 litre ford engines, not much weight in one of those I'd wager.Get 2 of them and bolt them together, end up with a straight six and probably half the weight of a 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepy Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Ok if we are thinking outside the box, then a hyabusa engine! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggrr1 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Even more bonkersToyota RX7 engine and gearbox (dizzy)(dizzy)(dizzy)but thirsty for oil and petrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 How about this ?http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/triumph/auction-704934975.htmTony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 OMG is that an optical illusion on pic 5 on that link Nang!!!!!!! Wholly Bonnet Modifications Batman!!!! I'm sure you have all guessed it by now but the Zetec SE is one of the best to use. I spent a long time looking at different engines down the breakers. It even fitted under the original spitfire mk2 bonnet and it might be possible to fit it without any tub mods.Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensH Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Chris: Could have been worse... ??) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 2402 wrote:OMG is that an optical illusion on pic 5 on that link Nang!!!!!!! Wholly Bonnet Modifications Batman!!!!That looks just like the bonnet mod done to a Pinto-engined Mk3 I tested 20+ years ago.At least this one's got a nicer engine,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npanne Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 JensH wrote:Chris: Could have been worse... ??)This is still my favourite ever Spitfire picture - largely because that's exactly how it'd look if I ever tried to hand-craft a bespoke panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phwoar Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 JensH wrote:Chris: Could have been worse... ??)Looks like an escaped extra from a Mad Max movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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